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Up on the Roof

       
Up on the Roof

August 11, 2010

Your Little Piece of Country

A terrace or roof deck can be a very valuable and enjoyable amenity. There’s nothing like having outdoor space when you’re in the middle of a hectic metropolis. That being said, taking over your seller’s rights and obligations, when it comes to a terrace or roof deck, can come with unwanted and costly surprises.

 

The Roof Warranty

Let’s start with roof basics. In most cases, the terrace or deck is located on top of the building’s roof surface. That surface consists of a roofing system, usually some type of “membrane” that the co-op or condo has been maintaining, or possibly, just replaced at great expense. That roof membrane will come with a “warranty” from the membrane manufacturer that protects the co-op or condo from defects, primarily a leaky roof. As you might expect, co-op and condo Boards are quite hinky about anyone penetrating the roof surface and possibly voiding the roof warranty. When the warranty is voided, the co-op or condo is responsible for the cost of repairing or replacing the roof surface. Not a good result. Accordingly, it is essential for a purchaser to determine whether there is an active roof warranty in place that covers the roof underneath the terrace or deck surface that is associated with the apartment in question. The seller may have been willing to assume liability for a poorly constructed deck surface or may have voided the roof warranty without the knowledge of the co-op or condo. It’s one thing for the seller to assume such liabilities and obligations and quite another for a purchaser to take over those responsibilities when the apartment changes hands. Keep the following in mind as you peruse the Hudson from high above it all:

If the warranty has been voided by the actions of the seller or by the mere existence of the terrace or deck, a purchaser may inherit the liability for the voided warranty once he or she is the owner of the apartment.

You Take Your Deck as You Find It

So it is very important to determine the condition of the deck surface and roof system when considering an apartment with a roof-related amenity. If the deck will require replacement (and that renovation has been factored into the price of the apartment), the cost of replacement can far exceed the purchase price reduction for replacing the deck surface if the purchaser has to indemnify the co-op or condo in the event the roof warranty is voided when the old surface is taken up and a new surface is installed. As a result, pre-contract due diligence requires analysis by an engineer or architect (or both) as to the condition of the deck and the roof system (to the extent that analysis can be done) to insure to the greatest extent possible that the purchaser will not become a guarantor of the integrity of the roof system.

The Worst Letter You Can Get: The Roof Has to Be Replaced…

Sometimes the deck surface may be in good condition, but the roof is approaching the end of its useful life. Once a roof starts leaking, it never gets any better…and usually gets worse. When the Board determines that it’s time for the roof membrane to be replaced, all fixtures, structures and personal property on the roof have to be removed in order for the roof surface to be replaced. Yes, everything goes.

In almost all cases, the owner of the apartment will be responsible, at the owner’s cost, to remove the deck surface, structures (such as greenhouses or enclosures) and personal property (including planters and other landscaping), no matter how complicated or expensive, in order to facilitate the replacement of the roof surface.

What Comes Up May Not Necessarily Be What Goes Back Down

Once you get your hands around the notion that your beautiful teak decking and loggia have to be taken up and stored somewhere, if it isn’t damaged beyond recognition in the process of dismantling it to facilitate the roof replacement, to add insult to injury, you may not be able to re-install the exact same terrace surface, structures and landscaping when the project is completed. Further, in addition to issues that relate to maintaining the roof warranty, there are numerous other code issues that arise when a new terrace or deck surface is installed, including weight bearing calculations, known as the “load” factor. You will now be required to satisfy the current code requirements for the deck surface that might render your existing deck materials and installation unacceptable (e.g.,your beloved oversized cherry tree might not make it back). But the big issue will no doubt be combustibility of the materials you intend to use as the deck surface. Since combustible materials cannot exceed twenty percent of the roof surface on which the deck is located, you may be required to use a non-combustible alternative to traditional wood decking or the co-op or condo may require a stone “paver system” in order to avoid the issue completely. It’s something that might not be knowable when you sign the contract.

Everybody Gets Into the Act

Whether you are replacing an existing deck or about to install a new one, your plans must be reviewed and approved by the building’s architect and engineer, at your expense, before you commence construction. That review can result in changes to your plans and additional costs to satisfy the comments and objections of the professionals. A co-op or condo Board’s primary concerns will be the structural integrity of the roof and safety. In light of several recent deck fires in various parts of Manhattan, as reported in the New York Times on July 12th, my guess is that stricter scrutiny of deck installations can be expected.

Residential Reality: Once Again, Do Your Due Dilly Before You Sign…

A careful review of the governing documents and minutes of the co-op and condo and questioning the property manager extensively are prerequisites to purchasing an apartment with roof rights. Decks and terraces are wonderful amenities that often add value in a difficult market. The more complicated your deck or terrace installation, however, the greater the risk for havoc when the roof beneath your terrace or deck needs to be replaced. Make sure you understand the intentions of the co-op or condo in which the apartment is located, or you may soon find yourself in a construction zone if a roof replacement is on the horizon.

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The seller has indicated that there was a leak in the bathroom from the apartment above that has been repaired in all respects? Can I rely on seller’s representation to that effect in the contact?

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Once I get a loan commitment, is my loan approved?

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When it comes to purchasing an apartment, what exactly is due diligence?

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Should I have the apartment inspected before I sign the contract?

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I am purchasing an apartment with extensive landscaping on the terrace. Can the co-op or condo make me remove landscaping that was existing at the time of my purchase?

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I have an opportunity to buy a garage space, but the sponsor is calling the arrangement a “license” rather than a “purchase”. Does that matter?

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The seller’s bank can’t locate the stock and lease for the co-op closing. Can we still close?

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The broker told me that I can adjourn the closing for 30 days? Is that correct?

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The Offering Plan for my condo indicates that the apartment has a “lot line” window. Is that a problem?

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My dog bit someone in the lobby and I have been notified that if it happens again, my dog will have to go. Does the Board have the power to restrict me from having a pet?

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There is an unobstructed view from the apartment I am considering, but there is a vacant lot directly in front of that side of the building. Is that reason for concern?

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The Managing Agent called and it looks like my finances will not be sufficient to get Board approval. Is there anything I can do?

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We are considering an apartment in a co-op where the sponsor still owns units. Is that a problem?

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The seller’s apartment presently has a storage unit. Does the storage unit transfer with the apartment?

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I’m buying an apartment from a sponsor and the Offering Plan requires me to pay the sponsor’s transfer taxes and attorneys fees. Do I have to?

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The purchase price of my apartment is over $1,000,000.00. Is the transaction subject to the “mansion tax"?

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I’m selling my apartment, but I’m not a resident of New York State. Are there any special closing costs?

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We did the walk through and the apartment was filthy. The contract required the apartment to be “broom clean”. Can we complain at the closing?

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I have to sell my apartment in order to afford the new one I’d like to buy. Can the contract be contingent on the sale of my existing apartment?

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I’m a famous person (no, I really am) and I really don’t want my financial information given to eight strangers on a co-op Board. Is there a way to avoid that?

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I’m the executor of the estate of a deceased shareholder. Do I have to go to the closing?

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I just graduated law school and have a job with a large law firm. I have a significant salary, but no liquidity or significant assets. Will I be able to buy a co-op?

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The listing indicates that the apartment has “roof rights”. How can I be sure?

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I have not been able to make my co-op mortgage payment for the past three months. If the bank declares my loan in default, how long will it take before the bank forecloses on my apartment?

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A co-op owner asks: I have found that maintenance is usually higher in coops than in condos because of the contribution by the shareholders to the building's underlying mortgage payments. In condos, the unit owners only pay for real estate taxes and common charges for common areas. Will the monthly maintenance be reduced after the underlying mortgage has been fully amortized?

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Can a corporation or other business entity own the shares of a cooperative apartment?

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I’m buying an apartment in a building designated as a “landmark.” Should I be concerned?

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I’m buying a cooperative apartment in Manhattan, but I move out to the Hamptons from June to the end of September each year. Will I be able to sublet the apartment each year when I’m away?

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It’s the day before the closing and I just found out that the maintenance for the apartment is higher than the maintenance stated in the contract. Is that grounds to terminate the contract?

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The financials for the condo are more than a year out of date and there is a delay issuing the new financials. Should I be concerned?

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I obtained sole ownership of my condo in my divorce, but the deed for the apartment is still in both of our names. Will my ex-spouse’s cooperation be required when I’m ready to sell the apartment?

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I am buying an apartment in a small building and I just found out that the elevator is being renovated and will be out of service for three months. Do I have to close if the elevators will not be operational on the closing date?

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The seller is a foreign citizen and does not have a social security number. Does that prevent the seller from selling the apartment?

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An “assessment” was imposed by the co-op Board after the contract was signed. Is payment of the assessment the seller’s responsibility?

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My boyfriend and I are interested in buying our first apartment in a new construction condominium. Our mortgage broker tells us we should qualify for a 90% loan, but it will be a close call for the bank. The sponsor wants us to sign a “no contingency” contract. Is that a good idea?

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We are considering a condo purchase in a new development that is only 25 percent sold. There is a bank that has approved the project and will make the loan, but should we be concerned about the number of units that the sponsor still has to sell?

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We are buying an apartment that has been extensively renovated. Among other things, the size of the master bath was significantly increased. Can we rely on a representation in the contract that all required approvals were obtained from both the Cooperative Corporation and from the New York City Department of Buildings?

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We received a draft of the contract of sale for the cooperative apartment we are buying and our social security numbers are on the front page! Our attorney told us that we will have to provide our identification numbers to the managing agent for a credit check as a part of the Board package, so it’s not a big deal. Do we have to list our socials on the contract?

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The listing stated that the apartment was 1,100 square feet, but the appraisal measured the apartment at 900 square feet. Can we cancel the contract and get our money back?

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I am considering an apartment in a new construction condominium. There is park under development by New York City that will greatly enhance the value of the condominium when it’s completed. Although the sponsor’s salesperson indicated that the first phase of the park will be completed in the next year or so, the Offering Plan contains a “Special Risk” that states that the sponsor gives no assurance as to when, if ever, the park will be completed. Who and what should I believe?

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We are in negotiations to purchase a co-op apartment on the Upper East Side. Our lawyer reviewed the minutes and discovered that the building has a bedbug infestation. Should we go forward with our purchase?

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My purchase application was approved by the co-op Board, but it is conditioned upon my providing a maintenance deposit and guaranty by my parents. Do I have to comply with the conditions?

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At my closing, I had to reimburse the Seller for his New York State “STAR” rebate that appeared on the maintenance statement for the month following the Closing. What exactly is the STAR rebate and will I be able to obtain the rebate as well?

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I'm selling my co-op next month and my attorney aked me to "freeze" the line of credit I have with my bank. What exactly do I have to do?

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I just found out that the seller will be unable to close for an additional two weeks. As a result, I will have to extend my rate lock, at a cost of $1,200.00. Is the seller obligated to reimburse this cost?

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I am buying a new construction condo and the Offering Plan is over 400 pages. Do I need to read the entire Offering Plan?

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We ran across a co-op that has a few “sponsor owned” apartments for sale. Is there any advantage in buying one of the remaining sponsor apartments?

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I am about to make an offer on an apartment, but I have not been provided with the current financial statements for the co-op. Am I entitled to review the financials before I make my offer?

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We are selling our apartment to our neighbor, but our neighbor can’t afford to purchase our apartment unless she sells her apartment. Her lawyer wants the contract to provide that the purchase of our apartment is contingent upon the sale of her apartment. Our lawyer is advising us against including a provision that makes the transaction contingent on the sale of the buyer’s apartment. Should we go along with the contingency?

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We are selling our co-op and the buyer is not obtaining a mortgage in connection with the purchase. The contract required the Board package to be submitted within 10 business days after the fully-executed contract was returned to the buyer. The buyer is two weeks late in submitting the package. Is the buyer in default?

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I’m selling my condo and I have not been able to pay my common charges for the past six months (I lost my job). I have a buyer for the apartment, but the Board of Managers will not release the Waiver of the Right of First Refusal, unless I pay the outstanding balance of the common charges. I’m between a rock and a hard place, as I don’t have the money. What should I do?

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I am combining two adjacent apartments that I own and I want the co-op to issue one stock certificate for both apartments. There is an outstanding UCC lien against one of the apartments. The other apartment is owned free of any liens. Can the co-op object to the combination?

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My attorney asked me to contact the managing agent to verify the maintenance and assessment information that's disclosed in the contract for the apartment I intend to purchase. Isn't that my attorney's job?

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Our application to purchase a co-op was turned down by the Board without an interview. Although our attorney asked the managing agent to disclose the reasons for the Board’s decision, none were given. Can the Board just turn our application down without any explanation?

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My bank issued a loan commitment, but then withdrew its underwriting because private mortgage insurance was not available. Will I have a problem canceling the contract and getting my deposit back?

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The seller has a storage bin, but the contract indicates that the apartment does not come with a storage bin. If I buy the apartment, can I be sure that a storage bin be avaialable?

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I’ve been asked to serve on the Board of my co-op. Could I be held liable if the co-op is a party to a law suit?

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I am buying a co-op in Manhattan. The managing agent is located in Brooklyn and refuses to send a closing representative to the attorney’s office for the buyer or seller located in Manhattan. Will everyone have to go to Brooklyn for the closing?

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We are purchasing a condo that was occupied by a tenant at the time the contract was executed. We just did the walk through and there is damage to a portion of the floor that was hidden by the tenant’s furniture. Are we entitled to a repair credit at Closing?

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A loan commitment was issued, but the bank requested an explanation for a $14.00 missed credit card payment that occurred nine years ago. Could the bank withdraw its commitment as a result of this missed payment?

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I'm selling my co-op, which I own with my mother and father. Is it okay to have the closing checks made out to the three of us?

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A leaking pipe inside the wall of my co-op was recently replaced. The following month, my maintenance account was charged $1,000.00 on the theory that the pipe only serviced my apartment. Am I responsible for this repair?

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A condo buyer has a mortgage contingency, but the closing will not take place for six months as the seller has a tenant in the apartment. When should the purchaser apply for financing?

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We submitted our Board package a month ago, but the Board has not scheduled an interview or asked for any additional information. To make matters worse, the managing agent won’t give us any indication as to what’s going on. Is there anything we can do?

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My co-op contract included the seller’s flat screen, but the bank underwriter required that it be removed from the contract as it was “impacting” loan to value. Can the bank do that?

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I am buying an apartment in a small co-op that is self managed. How does the bank obtain the required “co-op questionnaire” in order to complete its underwriting?

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